There Will Be Quiet – The Story Of Judge (Part 1)

There Will Be Quiet – The Story Of Judge (Part 1)

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one of the things about great bands is that there’s always a folklore story a myth around the singer judge was a very important band judges a controversial ban I was lucky enough to see judge three times from the beginning it was just super intense and they got better every time and I was like a super fan of strage hardcore it’s ironic but music specifically hardcore saved my life a couple of times the thing about Mike before I actually met him he was already mythical kind of taciturn serious guy kids took his lyrics maybe just too far and people sort of associated judge with violence kids have all this kind of like you know wrong expectations about first of all what he’s about how violent he is he became his character where people made him something that he wasn’t yeah they just pictured this guy with like a baseball bat if you crossed this path with like a joint or a beer he’s got like you don’t beach it yeah it just became it just blew up into this whole thing and then we broke up you know I don’t know exactly why we broke up Mike just disappeared that’s what was so mysterious like you just completely vanished into thin air next thing you know judge just didn’t exist anymore people were just that guy and we love judge you know what in here all these rumors he’s in the Hells Angels yeah face running God it’s just like a biker dude now how can you walk away from something that was so cool you know this was such a great band it was a here and gone I think it was a real head-scratcher and fitting for myself and friends that were like ah we love John well I was I was just born and raised like a Knockaround guy I’ve always I’ve always been like a kind of like a up little kid my mother died when I was like a little leaven or claw she destroyed her heart with pills my father was you know like this hard-working guy you know he’s just like he’s just a hard hard man drank hard at night you know she died on a Saturday it was a massive heart attack that killed her and we’re like sitting in silence and and I know something’s up and he just goes listen I’m going to tell you something I don’t want you to cry I like what like your mom’s dead mom died don’t cry about it so I was alright and I didn’t cry about it now let I grew up with not much tenderness and like room for you know sappiness you get hurt you know suck it up you know don’t be a wimp don’t be a and I made me like this introvert who could like socialize really really good with people and the first thing I remember like actually like enjoying with like listening to the radio eventually moving on to like my brothers record collection going through our record collection like I would listen to every record you know and it wasn’t like I’m going to listen to this song all now I want to hear something else I would just put on that record to listen to that record and I would study the gatefold and I would read all the names of the players they used to listen to it all and just make pretend I just started making attend I was in the band you know then one day I going through the record collection I grab the David Bowie Ziggy Stardust record I don’t know if you’re familiar when you start us and like you know the songs about a band you know like in my little mind I was like now I’m Ziggy Stardust I’m that guitar player he’s you know with the golden hands and constantly like from the time I walked through the door after school till the time my father came home and made me go to sleep I was playing concerts in my room on air guitar you know so basically I was like I don’t need anybody you know I got this world I don’t need anybody else I get to high school and it’s like a torture chamber in there you know like I just don’t fit in like I didn’t know how to like hang out with people and I didn’t know how to talk with people so I was an easy target and every once awhile I see like this like this dude he’s got like you know like this weird haircut it was like wearing a leather jacket or something I had no idea what they were about I just know that there’s not many of them and these people are like making fun of him but he doesn’t even give a yeah and I used to think that was so cool because I was like these guys do that to me and it scares the out of me and I was like man I wish I could be like that dude who he just doesn’t give a it’s just everything bounces off him and then I would see another guy like that and and I got the courage up to be like hey dude what is where are those guys he’s like oh they’re punk rock if you listen to punk rock going what the hell is punk rock and he’s like why don’t you come with us after school my band is practicing and I was like I’m I’m playing it cool but inside the cycle we can be in bands you know like this is great then that weekend they take me to the first matinees like Saturday matinees a cbet right we go and his agnostic front is playing with the first singer John Watson and I was blown away man I just walked away from it going I’m never gonna miss another one of these I don’t care well I could be half dead but I’m gonna make every matinee forever because I was such a loner up kid you know and then all sudden I find this group of loner up kids in New York and now I don’t feel so alone that became my family like that whole scene that whole city it became my reason for like living because I just wanted it to be got it I gotta be alive so I can make it to the matinee on Saturday anybody have to toughen up yeah boy I wrote this next song a long time ago when I wasn’t in a band I wrote it about a family member I’m just doing it get her together it all ended when she was too up protect her six-year-old daughter from the friends she decided to party with this song is called in my way that song in my way was the song that I wrote that line about my cousin something had happened with my little niece because of her mother and dope a right or wrong I remember saying for what she has done I wish those drugs would just kill her before I get my hands on her that’s the line in the song those drugs are going to kill you if I don’t get to you first that’s like a awful thing to think about anybody and then I’m thinking about it and it’s my own blood you know I’m hoping that what that lyric is really written about no one else that has had to go through that it’s just the truth of the matter is the pain behind it all is overwhelming I just keep reminding myself is yell yelling screaming as early as I can remember there was a booze everywhere in my in my house my my father was a big drinker I can’t even remember how old I was when I first snuck you know bottle of booze from my dad’s cabin tell it what I mean the booze wasn’t even in a cabinet it was just lined up on on the table in the corner you know I started drinking at a at a very early age it was just a normal thing it gave me confidence and I stuck with that and then like I guess the most pivotal moment for me I went into City by myself and was a weeknight like a Wednesday or Thursday night and a show at CBGB’s when I got down to CBS I walked across the street the bodega I bought like whatever bottle of booze I have enough money for and proceeded to get like annihilated and most of it is a blur but I must have did something wrong because I got I got the kicked out I just remember I kind of like shaking my head you know shaking the cobwebs off I was on the floor in this little dark corner of CDs fat lip and screwed up nose black eyes it you know nodded up head bells going off in my head you know it just I’m up there was no straightedge there was no straightedge scene I didn’t even know this that you know I haven’t even heard my thread but I just knew that I was never going to get handled like that again and first step in doing it was no drinking no drinking no drugs now is the beginning because of that asking I take the bus home and I’m walking down this long road as I was walking and I see this car it’s like Camaro the tell-tale sign of his jock asshole usually I stare at the ground trying not to make eye contact because I was afraid of me they all seemed bigger than me they all seemed meaner than you know just like tough but for some reason I just look at this card I look right at a magical muck and then it dawned on me that wasn’t afraid of this guy because four or five hours ago I was getting the kicked out of me by this like 250 pounds tattooed mania you know yeah a mohawk and leather jacket with daggers and spike sticking out of it all sudden this truck from jock and a varsity jacket ain’t so scary now you know they get a car and they look at me and they’re like what’s up and I and I look at him like you know what they look a lot smaller today you know I mean that was it but I did turn red everything changed after that I was on like such a different set of tracks by the time I wanted to start judge things that happened earlier on in my life with the switch I wasn’t so much afraid of being heard you know I wanted to that caused a ruckus right you got dough you

100 thoughts on “There Will Be Quiet – The Story Of Judge (Part 1)

  • sprite Post author

    lol how you gonna go from Judge to Fat Mikes musical thats like going from black to pink.

  • kevxxxedge Post author

    Great filming, damn.

  • Mitch Mazzolini Post author

    YEHHHHHHHH PUNK RAWK 4 LIFE!

  • jasonhorton Post author

    I always wanted to see them when they played but could never get a ride as a kid. Got to see them last year. Finally got that ride I guess.

  • Biscuits Total War Post author

    Chung King Can Suck It!

  • Dburnage Post author

    Many people suffer from the effects that substance abuse has on them or their environment.  At the core of the straight-edge movement is a positive idea of living a life free of substance abuse.  I have respect for that idea.

  • baker3person Post author

    THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD! please do more hardcore docs like this. also could you start providing a song listing?

  • Mean Gene Post author

    Can't wait for the rest! The filming is spot on! Professional work guys!

  • BPM Latino Post author

    cant wait to see the whole series!

  • cliffycashmore Post author

    greatly put together !! !

  • Donutsmasher1 Post author

    Lol I'm in this

  • jo232409 Post author

    This guy likes his fuck'n.

  • Clinton Sypherd Post author

    Up Next: "Sia-Big Girls Cry"
    What the fuck YouTube?

  • luke robinson Post author

    this makes me proud to be straight edge and stand up for what i believe in. 

  • rogaface Post author

    Man this is awesome and so was that New Orleans sludge series you guys did. Thanks so much

  • Sorry Mom Post author

    Fuck yeah.

  • AutisticRobotCat666 Post author

    More!

  • KillingITSince1987 Post author

    way better bands out there to follow up on. Like BANE.

  • whniwsyrsndtrck Post author

    When's Botch gonna do one of these? Brian Cook writes for Noisey. I know they did the whole "Oral History of Botch" for Alternative Press, but it's not the same.

  • Jay1200 _ Post author

    Ima pop this nigga#300 #300K #BD #BDK #InternetThugsBeLike

  • djabthrash Post author

    really good, looking forward to episode 2

  • Craig Krage Post author

    You need to stop dicking around and release both parts to these series.
    You fuck it up by not allowing us the viewer to enjoy the whole experience.

  • Ahmad Gardi Post author

    I know noisey can do better keep the interviews with rappers coming and shit like noisey atlanta, bring back that whiteboy thomas too

  • gman don Post author

    great doc its amazing how everything is a cycle

  • Tor Strasburg Post author

    First time here. What stellar film-making! Enthralling, cutting-edge work. Can’t wait to indulge in what you offer!

  • S C E N I T H Post author

    Crucial Times

  • hiimnick5 Post author

    Lol these highschool kids in the comments who think smoking weed makes them edgy

  • R E A L H U M A N B E A N Post author

    There are more Straight Edge Hardcore bands still like Liferuiner that have been out since forever ago. Maybe early 2000's.

  • YungOb.1 Post author

    Yes

  • Marlon Davis Post author

    straight edge kids are gay as fuck, they label themselves by what they don't do. very original -_-

  • tymmac007 Post author

    One of the best bands ever!

  • Divided Line Post author

    This piece was awesome.

  • giorgio tsoukalos Post author

    Badass

  • TheRedtaz Post author

    mike judge sounds like the crumbsucker's singer.

  • centralscrutinizer66 Post author

    Lots of Judge shirts in Detroit. Definitely influenced local bent-edge crushers Pittbull. There may not have been a Biohazard or Hatebreed without judge.

  • thisissoicantroll Post author

    do one about Warzone!!!

  • browndx Post author

    Amazing; thank you.

  • Possessed By Genesis Post author

    Was always into this shit but can't stand the militant straight edge movement…talking about people not keeping their shit together for their family and your standing on stage at like 380 lbs barely able to talk your so winded…bit hypocritical all things considered

  • The1stDukeDroklar Post author

    And why do men think that to display your emotions makes you less of a Man? The fact is it makes you far more than merely a Man. It takes far more strength and courage to go against all the conditioning and to face the ridicule of the cowards that call themselves men. To be scorned by most women as well who are subject subconsciously to the same conditioning that permeates society for thousands of thousands of years (that's millions for any of the alts that like to follow me looking for a way to prick and jab at what I say).

    That mentality is also the indoctrinated automatic thinking that leads every man to look down upon women and yet most women play right into that same line of thought without realizing it. They seem to think that it indicates weakness when in fact indicates a real super man…something they very rarely may come across in their lives… if ever.

    As far as him feeling bad about what he said about a family member… "my own blood", Wtf has that got to do with anything? The fact is that family will treat you worse than strangers. They will cut you the deepest as they betray you time and time again. I have walked away from nearly every family member I ever knew for these reasons. The only real family I have are friends who have yet to betray my trust or try to use my kindness as a weakness…. few and far between.

  • IM ALREADY DEVD Post author

    Who cares kf youre sxe or not enjoy the doc..

  • Mr Berry Post author

    This was pointless. Just some fat loser who made a band and broke up. No intrigue, no drama. As usual hardcore fans over state their importance in music.

  • Robbie Desiato Post author

    Those hammers, is he a West Ham fan?

  • Alejo Lorenzo Fuentes Post author

    Fukin n shit

  • Jesse Manderson Post author

    WOW.

  • E T Post author

    just listened to new york crew had to watch this again.

  • shoehoarding Zimbobway Post author

    straight edge or not good stuff

  • albert speer Post author

    krishna JEW looks like shit!

  • Wendy Holden Post author

    ivdq got plenty of straight edge friends but they aren't the type to beat the breaks off someone for them.drinking or smoking. THEY are legit but no one should get beat for doing something that has nothing to do with anyone else especially if they're mindiw their own business

  • abb nohrmall Post author

    I got curious about this band when a guy at the post office noticed my Black Flag patch when I went to pick up some records and mentioned Judge. I have never quite understood the whole "straight edge" thing. I don't sniff glue myself, but a lot of my heroes are drug and booze guys…A lot of great artists are…That is their trip, who cares? I thought "punk" was supposed to be about individuality…I never did get the self righteous trip…..I dig the "F. You" aspect, and if you don't like the fact that I drink beer, smoke weed, eat steak, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, or even if I did sniff glue, what is it to you? And being a vegetarian of vegan? Are you kidding me? Some good music, but probably one of the weirdest and pompous "scenes" to ever develop….I get the concept of abstaining from druggery if that is your trip…I am a recovering addict and alcoholic myself, but to build a whole scene out of it with such a holier than thou trip to it….I don't get it.

  • Elec Post author

    0:52 is it Darren Pesce ?

  • Junling Liu Post author

    as baker3person below said it; this is an excellent documentary

  • Luke Taylor Post author

    I went to the FUCKIN mall to buy some FUCKIN eggs and FUCKIN milk so that I can FUCKIN make a FUCKIN cake for my FUCKIN wife.

  • Robert Christian Post author

    Being 45 this shit still gives me Bumps….NYHC till death

  • 808 Dylan Post author

    Seems like the younger generations don't have their own version of hardcore, I don't mean the style of music I mean a scene of counter culture.

  • babalon 777 Post author

    What a piece of shit. Moving on…

  • tokyo damage Post author

    Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting dwunks!

  • Pedro Cerda Post author

    yo what song is playing at the end there?

  • Squirrel Master Post author

    Ironic. These guys are exactly wimps and pussies

  • otto borr Post author

    Fucking hick.judge are fucking metal and they sucked

  • doomzday Post author

    These guys were a fuckin JOKE back in the day-

  • Reg Rock Post author

    “straight edge” was a bizarre scene. Punk in general attracted the most cowardly and sheepish people who acted and dressed a certain way to hide their insecurities and weaknesses. A generalization for sure, but somewhat accurate.

  • final lucario Post author

    Why are they so stoked on a shitty straight edge hardcore band that sounded just like all the other shit straight edge bands if these clowns didn't fUCK with you if you blazed minding your own business. Fuck straight edge bands they were dickheads to everyone if you weren't like them!

  • xot Post author

    God, his story rings so true about the NYHC scene opening up for an outcast kid. I know I can relate to going from a simple question, to a band practice, to having my body battered and my mind blown at a CBGB matinee. I know a lot of us misfits can.

  • Aspern Park Post author

    HC 4 life

  • calihardcoredotcom Post author

    Such a great band!

  • Everett Clunie Post author

    “Like you” shaped my young life. I listened to that song every day for years, and eventually I started a band and we covered that song ourselves at the end of every set. 3000 miles away from New York, and 20 years after it was written, there would still be at least a half dozen kids and maybe even a fully grown ass man or two at the mic screaming along every night. It was amazing, a fucking childhood dream come true. I’m glad to see them getting some acknowledgement for the mark they made on hardcore

  • 5amplewhor3 Post author

    Nothing more pissed off than sober people. Doesn’t matter if you’re sxe or not, the music and message is usually on point.

  • TheRedtaz Post author

    mike is almost as annoying as sick of it all's singer and freddie madball horrible vocailist, john joeseph, roger, hr, are much better performers, and jeff from breakdown slaughters them.

  • Manic Smile Post author

    F_ck Judge

  • Manic Smile Post author

    Judge sounds like a real piece of sh_t.

  • Rusty Shackleford Post author

    7:34 is that Raybeez??

  • J L Post author

    Amazing that the guy is called Mike Judge and looks like Bobby Hill

  • Snaggle Toothed Post author

    This guy should abandon himself to hard drug addiction.
    It's what his Mom would have wanted.
    Escape from the triviality of reality into the narcosphere.
    Needles and pipes and no more worries.

  • tyler perkinson Post author

    Don't cry about it….?

  • AlleyStar Growley Post author

    Man i relate on levels

  • AlleyStar Growley Post author

    Nobody around me even understands what hardcore is. My own mother makes fun of me for it but all I know is that it's a sick movement of violent autistic and I love it

  • Kane's Crimes Post author

    Straight edge is only an admirable trait if the person exudes self discipline in it's entirety.

  • Black Kobra Post author

    Most straight edge kids are drug addicts now

  • Black Kobra Post author

    Do one on turmoil

  • lMrFresno559l Post author

    Straight Edge kids are the most violent thugs around. Would rather have a show full of drug heads than a bunch of thugs knocking women and others out with elbows.

  • Andy Wounds Post author

    just found this now…. spewing

  • Darrylizer1 Post author

    Nazi punks, nazi punks nazi punks FUCK OFF!

  • c0uchsl0uch Post author

    Cornholio ?

  • Billy Alarie Post author

    he has such an intense speaking voice, it's really quite addictive. i wanna listen to him for like 3-4 hours lmao

  • Wanda Ariesta Post author

    "….. WARRIORS !!! "

  • metalahhhhhhhhhhhh Post author

    2nd time Im watching this the sound really reminds me of SOD

  • NYHC1000 Post author

    Mike’s the guv’nor!!

  • T Fries Post author

    "They got him down it's three on one , ten of us show , guess who won ?". How many of you have lived that little scenario ? Let me tell you there's not much that's finer in life than seeing or hearing a bunch of your guys coming to the rescue after you've been pummeled and beaten for a couple minutes , fuckin karma time assholes! Anyway, best line in a hardcore song imo. F.C.Skins for life!

  • neonone Post author

    I could have swore I saw myself in the crowd shots even though I've never seen this band

  • MsNooneinparticular Post author

    Anyone else think his dad might've killed his mom? Jesus.

  • Scott Travis Post author

    Mike judge looks like Necro

  • Stacey Friedrich Post author

    wow u are nuts

  • Stacey Friedrich Post author

    he never loved you back

  • satowell hangry Post author

    rewatching this and this dum dum dum dum background sound still really disturbing with mike speeches

  • vadermask//mass retaliation Post author

    I went to my first hardcorepunk show (CIRCLE JERKS) in 1986. I haven't looked back since! I'm almost 48 and I'll be into hardcore, punk, and Oi! until my last breath.

  • AfterLyfe Post author

    Straight edge is weak

  • Literally Ryan Post author

    8:34 morbidly obese straight edge

  • Skeleton Post author

    Respect 👊

  • Seamus603 Post author

    Welcome to the family of hardcore. School of hard knocks.

  • Seamus603 Post author

    Jocks are pussies

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