Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill – Second Reading – Video 4

Family and Whānau Violence Legislation Bill – Second Reading – Video 4

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the beginning thank you very much madam Speaker I call Chris efficient well thank you very much madam Speaker this is a really important bill on a really important issue frankly it’s embarrassing that it’s taken a year to move the second region because I was a member of the Justice Committee in the last Parliament this bill was referred to us was introduced in the 15th of March 2017 first reading on the 11th of April kind of a tail end of the last Parliament we considered it a number of very serious submissions from very August bodies we reported the bill back on the 15th of 16th of August 2017 year no one will it speak Parliament to consider the bill on the 16th of August I don’t even think I think it might have been the very last act of the last Parliament before the election on the 23rd of September but fair enough to assume some progress would have been made between August 2017 and September 2018 but yet none has been made so I agree with the remarks of the Honorable Minister Stuart Nash about the importance of working in a bipartisan way across the Parliament about how we normally to take Family Violence extremely seriously it would be nice if the government provided some impetus through the legislative program for that themselves so that’s that’s my first point around the delay I also want to deal with the integrated safety response pilot which he made much mention of and he said well I’ve said on a integrated safety response panel and I’ve seen the great work that it does no one in Christchurch has died as a result of family violence since the ISR was introduced well there that initiative came out of the cross government work that the last government wasn’t was involved in and was engaged in across various different ministers and said triumphantly we know we meet weekly you know as if this was some like grand achievement that ministers meet weekly actually you know if he’s only just discovering in the last you know today a year in that ministers meet on a weekly basis to discuss things I think he’s got a few issues but there’s not an achievement meeting weekly actually outcomes are what matters thus these coffees in the government love the meetings we just had a 1.5 million dollar summit which was a very large meeting you know actually the meetings were all well and good but you need to get the outcomes and the ISR came out of the various meetings that the previous government did in Stuart initiatives well I’ve said on a panel well and he said where we welcome the opposition support for the integrated safety response panel well I tried to go and sit on a panel in Christchurch I arranged it and it was all due to be arranged and just literally 45 minutes before I was due to go and sit on the panel to see you know firsthand for myself as a member of the justice committee and the opposition spokesperson for police exactly how it worked the meeting was cancelled by the minister’s office so look I welcome Stuart Nash’s call for bipartisanship and for cholera across the parliament in order to make sure we take this problem seriously I completely agree with them be nice if he actually backed that up with actions and I’m looking forward to the next request to go and visit the is are being approved by him rather than cancelled he also needs to get to grips with his portfolio because the integrated safety response is funded out of vote police it’s not a budget bird from Jay and Loki which is what he said would happen as under secret tree it’s a vote police funding line isn’t even know his own portfolio and the reality is the fun thank you madam Speaker look you’ve been very clear in your rulings on people speaking to the bill and you had a quid pro quo in relation to it for tet at the start that has been now been feeding around the house is the way to move forward and for the last three minutes we’ve heard a rant that hasn’t been anything to do with the bill it’s been somewhat personal on an attack the minister speak to the pool of water I’ve spent about as much time talking about integrated safety response as the previous minister did yeah the difficulty that I have is that the previous minister didn’t actually address the bill either in talked generally and raised a whole number of points which the speaker is now addressing so they’re already on the floor I’m actually wondering whether anyone in the house has actually read the bill and understands it and it’s going to speak to it but I call special well well madam Speaker I’ll take you up on your invitation because I I have read the bill and as I say I said on the Select Committee in the last Parliament I’m very proud to be a member of the Justice Committee was the justice and literal now it’s the Justice Committee I want to talk about the name the the name of the bill and in particular the reference to farmer because one of the one of the interesting issues we considered and this was if you read the sleep committee report you can see that the labor party minority view it was a minority view was to delete the reference to far no on its Mary language week and T wiki Oh today oh and so it’s appropriate we have a debate about that because there was a view that came through through some submitters that the reference to farno in the bill was inappropriate and I think you can have a legitimate debate about that I I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that but the Labor Party certainly backed that view through their minority reports of interests and see whether or not they are going to change other name threat through that deletion the second thing about the name madam Speaker is we had an interesting debate in the Select Committee about the word family and particularly the reference on whether or not there should be a reference to domestic violence because at the moment the act is the domestic violence at 1995 and it’s quite outdated that’s now 23 years old and this bill seeks to essentially replace the domestic violence act by reference to family violence that’s the new to the new our nomenclature is family violence and there were some submitters who turned up and said well we don’t actually see any problem with keeping the phraseology of domestic violence there’s nothing wrong with because it’s it’s violence that occurs largely in the in the home it’s it’s family violence and in the domestic setting so we should call it domestic violence and there were other submitters who came and said to us that and I found the submission very interesting the the reference to domestic implies and indicates that it’s something that should be off-limits to the criminal law that when people talk about husband and a wife or family having having a domestic people used to talk about that it’s an old-fashioned term now but it’s actually we’re probably where that a mystic violence at 1995 1995 got its logic from people would talk about having a domestic and when they talked about having a domestic they meant you know that’s something that’s nothing to do with me as a bystander or nothing to do with me as the neighbor next door or nothing to do with me as the person down the street who sees a woman go to the dairy with a black eye they’re just having a domestic and it implies that that’s something and the private sphere that the state should have pay any attention to and more importantly in that it implies it’s something that wider society should not have a view on or pay any attention to all report to the police all report to a an agency that helps people who are victims of family violence in most cases women so actually you might say okay what’s in a name actually the name matters in that I freely admit I went into the Select Committee process at the start thinking why are there so many submissions about the name family or domestic or farno or whatever and actually it became very clear through the submissions that it really mattered to the people at the front line dealing with us and it was really important and I listened to all the submissions and I listened to the various arguments put either way and actually I I strongly agree that we should not call it domestic violence it is not something that is just a domestic that neighbors and communities in society should have no interest in and the state should not have any interest in family violence is a crime family violence is a social scourge and it is absolutely right that the state takes an interest in that and actually one of the most remarkable or one of the the most excellent things about the change in New Zealand society over the last fifteen to twenty years is that we don’t really refer to domestics anymore that term you know that terminology has become parcei we talk about family violence and having an act that is called the Family Violence Act or at least not the domestic violence Act is actually really important so that deal was worth what I didn’t think would be a vexed issue of the name but actually it is in terms of the other really important changes other speakers have sort of canvassed some of the changes we’ve recommended as a SLIC committee making a series of changes to the bill as introduced not not I don’t think you would say they’re outrageous lis wild changes to the bill they’re not they don’t really go to the substance they largely and the Select Committee report endorses the direction of travel but there are some minor changes that are important so for example with protection orders we’ve recommended simplifying the age based assumptions and the Act to allow our children aged 16 years and over to choose we’re going to make an application for protection order in their own name or through a representative we have recommended including a provision to enable a judge to interview a child at any stage and the process if the judge deems that necessary or desirable that’s through you know because the courts are very intimidating to anyone but particularly to children so this is all about allowing children to better express their views we’ve made some recommendations around the quite complicated issue of information sharing and disclosure between Family Violence agencies and social service practitioners so it was a pleasure to serve on the committee considering this bill I would have liked to have seen it come back before the house for a second reading before now but it’s here now and I’m looking forward to its passage through the house and the coming weeks and months mr. speaker cackling aho Quixote lemarchal Teaneck we’re mr. speaker thank you for the opportunity

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