Children, Young Persons, and Their Families (Oranga Tamariki) Legislation Bill – Video 6

Children, Young Persons, and Their Families (Oranga Tamariki) Legislation Bill – Video 6

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built to the house thank you I call what Jen loading Thank You mr. speaker and it’s what their heavy heart that I rise to speak on this bill and the children young persons the families what I know tomorrow key legislation ballot second reading I you know this is incredibly important legislation its legislation that’s intent is to protect children in this country and you know I am sure that protection of our kids as dears at the heart of every single member of this Parliament you know it is our duty as members of parliament I think particularly to be interested in the well-being of our children because they have no ability to vote so that puts a particular onus on us to be looking out for their interests and often they don’t even get a voice in the process and hardly did and directly to us as the committee so I just want to express how profoundly upset I am at the government screwing this up so badly that this is probably going to pass with one vote the legislation that should have every single person in this house and supportive because it is so important is going to just get through because you did not consult you did not look the government did not consult and did not listen and the issues that are they are trying to pretend don’t exist in this legislation have not been addressed despite some progress through the committee this legislation that makes change at the Child Youth and Family child children young person’s their families act that when it was introduced in 1989 for many years after that people came from all over the world to look at how our child protection and youth justice system was and many countries have looked to us for leadership because of that piece of legislation I’m not in any way saying that the way it’s been implemented has been perfect we’ve just heard from the last speaker about actually some of the challenges that we’re facing but the problem we heard from submitter after submitter is not fundamentally with the legislation of course there are things that since we signed the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and the Convention on the Rights of people with disabilities and they convention for indigenous peoples rights that needed updating in this legislation and we certainly could have got behind legislation that did that but it’s such a shame that actually this legislation doesn’t even make us compliant with those conventions it goes some way some way and then puts in some massive structural changes that risk the good things in the system that could work really well if they were properly resourced and for the you know the comments that yes we that actually people are supportive of this I do want to just quote some of the submitters and the comments that were made about the legislation as it was first introduced and it was variously described as quote a dog’s breakfast quote more confusing taking us back to the 1950s a tractor rolling over moldy poorly drafted poorly thought through and consulted so I do acknowledge that there has been some significant improvement in the legislation from the bill that it was supposed to introduce particularly around provisions for protection of tamari tamari and their cultural identity but even in barrier where there has been significant progress made as lewis of wall pointed out pointed out so eloquently previously the key measures that we looked at it to and see if the changes that got over the line didn’t get over the line that we do not in this piece of legislation have the assurance that when a Tammany Kumari is removed from their farno for their own protection that they will then be placed into a far no hapu or a weak home where they will be safe and I heard and I did take offense from the minister in her opening speech saying that she had been offended and turned by a sense that the issues that some people their adult agendas were taking precedence over the needs of children were the people that I heard presenting that was not what their opposition was this was not about adults needs this was an acknowledgment that the well-being of our children is intricately tied up with their family you cannot separate those things that if the family and the extended family is unwell then the child will be unwell regardless of whether they’re living with them or not in that we absolutely it’s actually just fundamentally racist to me to suggest that we need that children will not be safe or could not in any instance be safe within their extended final hot war ii we these are large groupings the fault in the truth is that the institution has not developed the systems to be able to work with a we to find those safe places and here we are punishing those children by virtue of suggesting that their families are not safe because the institution has not been resourced to be able to create that and that is if we are acknowledging the fact that 60% in the history of racist practice within this institution it has to be acknowledged we heard it in the development of the leading up to the development of the original legislation and we heard it again through these submissions it was heartbreaking to hear the stories that were presented to us and the loss and the hurt and the deep mistrust that is developed as a result of the Crown’s failure to protect Tamera Kumari which is kind of part of the burn of this is the sense that’s been coming from this government is that they are going to protect these children where Maori have failed with the truth is children have been taken from their families and put into stake here and hurt and that we have hurt those children by our failure to ensure that those systems were appropriate and looking out for those interests of those children and their Farnam there are many things to be able to say about this bill and I run well over time already of what the things I wanted to say I did want to point out some of the things annoyance about where there is progress in this bill and yet it doesn’t go far enough is as an example where we support the well no actually I want to go to the information sharing provisions because this is really critical point about opposition to this bill where they one of the submissions which was a note that their provisions were consulted with the Privacy Commissioner and the Privacy Commissioner opposed them and yet they were brought to the committee and they have not been fundamentally changed at all even though the Privacy Commissioner opposed these changes and is raised by their mr. Rodney Women’s Refuge Marty caucus they noted that they are seeing now far no are starting to lie to them because they are scared of losing their children they also noted that women are often given a no 800 number to call if they’re concerned for their safety as victims of domestic violence but they won’t call it if child youth children young persons and their families people are going to be called so this is not a side issue this is central to ensuring victims are able to protect themselves and their children and people who may represent a danger to their children are able to seek help early we have to create a system that is going to work for them and verse legislation we’re just also considering the family and far no violence bill at the moment which has an alternative information sharing provisions that actually contradict this so clearly not even the ministers are talking to each other and who is going to fall through the cracks it is our children and we’re risking them being and more harm after this legislation goes through I call what Derrick Paul thank you sir teachers rise on behalf of New Zealand first to speak on the children young person’s in their families our aunt American legislation bill

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